Asuran Scan or Pain inverter? - Guild Wars Forums

Y Tim K · Dec 19, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Ok well i am going to try and start vanquishing and doing all missions in HM for Masters. I have both of these skills but I dont know which one to bring on my Dervish, and my current bar already has 2 PvE skills that are required so I have a extra spot open for a third PvE skill.

So which do you think I should use?

kupp · Dec 19, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

Pain Inverter any day, hands down. It became a mandatory skill on my bar for HM, it can handle elementalists in particular extremely well, since they always do +80dmg on hit and hit multiple targets, it's fairly common for them to kill themselvs almost instantly, even more if you're running an MM. Also, it's also a must for bosses.

Seraphim Angel · Dec 19, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Pain Inverter! A top 5 skill in terms of effectiveness in all of the game. Possibly top 3.

the savage nornbear · Dec 19, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

I'm assuming your running [[save yourselves], so what is the other skill that you need? Between these two, [[pain inverter], but [[asuran scan], is stupid good.

here to troll · Dec 19, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02

aura of holy might i think savage nornbear

MagmaRed · Dec 20, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

I prefer to prevent large amounts of damage instead of returning it. So I'd say Asuran Scan over Pain Inverter. I always take a Monk with Protective Spirit and a Ranger, Mesmer, or combination of the 2 with interrupts. Not much fun to get half your team wiped out or more just to do large amounts of damage to an enemy.

Rhamia Darigaz · Dec 20, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

if you can handle the energy run asuran scan. scythe+AoHM+scan=lol am hittin u wif mah sithe

Y Tim K · Dec 20, 2008, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by here to troll

aura of holy might i think savage nornbear

lol I am sorry but I didnt understand what you said?

genofreek · Dec 20, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

I take Pain Inverter just because I like seeing strings of pretty yellow numbers on my screen. Pain Inverter + any AoE + minions = lol kthx byebye.

I do like the scan too, though.

genofreek · Dec 20, 2008, 04:02 AM // 04:02

lol double post

The Red Messenger · Dec 20, 2008, 04:28 AM // 04:28

on a dervish? neither. what kind of bar are you using anyway?

on the average bar pain inverter>scan, but derv really should use neither one. i would focus on increasing damage with each scythe attack.

genofreek · Dec 20, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

on a dervish? neither. what kind of bar are you using anyway?

on the average bar pain inverter>scan, but derv really should use neither one. i would focus on increasing damage with each scythe attack.

LOL, no, I didn't mean on my derv. She's my main, but I play almost every class in the game.

Quaker · Dec 20, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

I usually take Pain Inverter because I like seeing all the numbers come up when the enemies wipe themselves. But as I often say "Remember, PI has to cause pain to have it inverted". It works best if you have tanks that can sustain the damage, or pets that can be rezzed afterwards, or disposable minions. Otherwise, Asuran Scan is probably better.

take_me · Dec 20, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Pain Inverter. I just love to see those high lvl Eles nuke themselves^^
...and it makes killing many Bosses a lot easier.

X Shadow Reaper · Dec 20, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Pain Inverter made killing the end bosses in hm dungeons way easier......

Tuesday · Dec 21, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Pain Inverter all the way. Pwns eles in a matter of seconds.

Y Tim K · Dec 22, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41

here is my build.

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hope fully it worked I dont know how to put in the skill icons.

lilDeath · Dec 22, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49

I think it depends what char you're playing.

Pain Inverter is a more passive skill to use, fire-and-forget and casting it on recharge. It fits on a caster bar better than melee. The foe does the damage to himself.

For melee chars Asuran Scan works very nicely, since it increases the damage output quite heavily, especially with Asura maxed. It will also form part of your normal skill setups and activations while in battle while you are now putting out damage, especially with having Aura of Holy Might already. You can easy go into 100+ damage digits with these 2 skills. And with enemies in a ball around you when you hit, watch the pretty yellow numbers.

I like both.

Pain Inverter I normally use if no other skills are available from primary or sec lines, especially on casters.

Try both and see for yourself.

Dec 19, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28	#1
Y Tim K Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2008 Guild: The Enternal Dragon Profession: D/W	Asuran Scan or Pain inverter? Ok well i am going to try and start vanquishing and doing all missions in HM for Masters. I have both of these skills but I dont know which one to bring on my Dervish, and my current bar already has 2 PvE skills that are required so I have a extra spot open for a third PvE skill. So which do you think I should use?

Dec 20, 2008, 04:02 AM // 04:02	#10
genofreek Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Guild: Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR] Profession: D/	lol double post Last edited by genofreek; Dec 20, 2008 at 04:08 PM // 16:08..

Dec 20, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35	#13
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	I usually take Pain Inverter because I like seeing all the numbers come up when the enemies wipe themselves. But as I often say "Remember, PI has to cause pain to have it inverted". It works best if you have tanks that can sustain the damage, or pets that can be rezzed afterwards, or disposable minions. Otherwise, Asuran Scan is probably better. Last edited by Quaker; Dec 20, 2008 at 04:37 PM // 16:37..

Dec 20, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41	#14
take_me Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Country Roads [HOME]	Pain Inverter. I just love to see those high lvl Eles nuke themselves^^ ...and it makes killing many Bosses a lot easier. Last edited by take_me; Dec 20, 2008 at 04:44 PM // 16:44..

Dec 19, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58	#2
kupp Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Shiverpeaks Guild: [KISS] Profession: W/	Pain Inverter any day, hands down. It became a mandatory skill on my bar for HM, it can handle elementalists in particular extremely well, since they always do +80dmg on hit and hit multiple targets, it's fairly common for them to kill themselvs almost instantly, even more if you're running an MM. Also, it's also a must for bosses.

Dec 19, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03	#3
Seraphim Angel Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2008 Guild: Sacred Knights of Orr [SKoO] Profession: P/	Pain Inverter! A top 5 skill in terms of effectiveness in all of the game. Possibly top 3.

Dec 19, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47	#4
the savage nornbear Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2008 Guild: The Raging Cadavers [rage] Profession: R/	I'm assuming your running [[save yourselves], so what is the other skill that you need? Between these two, [[pain inverter], but [[asuran scan], is stupid good.

Dec 19, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02	#5
here to troll Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008	aura of holy might i think savage nornbear

Dec 20, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21	#6
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	I prefer to prevent large amounts of damage instead of returning it. So I'd say Asuran Scan over Pain Inverter. I always take a Monk with Protective Spirit and a Ranger, Mesmer, or combination of the 2 with interrupts. Not much fun to get half your team wiped out or more just to do large amounts of damage to an enemy.

Dec 20, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06	#7
Rhamia Darigaz Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2008	if you can handle the energy run asuran scan. scythe+AoHM+scan=lol am hittin u wif mah sithe

Dec 20, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01	#9
genofreek Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Guild: Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR] Profession: D/	I take Pain Inverter just because I like seeing strings of pretty yellow numbers on my screen. Pain Inverter + any AoE + minions = lol kthx byebye. I do like the scan too, though.

Dec 20, 2008, 04:28 AM // 04:28	#11
The Red Messenger Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: America	on a dervish? neither. what kind of bar are you using anyway? on the average bar pain inverter>scan, but derv really should use neither one. i would focus on increasing damage with each scythe attack.

Dec 20, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36	#15
X Shadow Reaper Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2008	Pain Inverter made killing the end bosses in hm dungeons way easier......

Dec 21, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00	#16
Tuesday Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Generation Of Legends [EviL] Profession: Mo/	Pain Inverter all the way. Pwns eles in a matter of seconds.

Dec 22, 2008, 12:41 AM // 00:41	#17
Y Tim K Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2008 Guild: The Enternal Dragon Profession: D/W	here is my build. OgCjkyrDLTAANXMXCYibyg9gxXA hope fully it worked I dont know how to put in the skill icons.

Dec 22, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49	#18
lilDeath Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Treehouse #1 Profession: W/	I think it depends what char you're playing. Pain Inverter is a more passive skill to use, fire-and-forget and casting it on recharge. It fits on a caster bar better than melee. The foe does the damage to himself. For melee chars Asuran Scan works very nicely, since it increases the damage output quite heavily, especially with Asura maxed. It will also form part of your normal skill setups and activations while in battle while you are now putting out damage, especially with having Aura of Holy Might already. You can easy go into 100+ damage digits with these 2 skills. And with enemies in a ball around you when you hit, watch the pretty yellow numbers. I like both. Pain Inverter I normally use if no other skills are available from primary or sec lines, especially on casters. Try both and see for yourself.